The band also recorded their first full-length with Olson, and had some help from another member of Cinema Red and Blue, Kyle Forester, on keyboards as well as Suzanne Nienaber, formerly of Great Lakes, on vocals. Before There Were Pictures was released in early 2014, and was followed later in the year by a single, "Fourteen Stories Tall"/"Twisting the Knife." The Pale Lights continued playing the occasional show, notably 2015's NYC Popfest, then reconvened at Olson's studio to record a four-song EP, 2016's Séance for Something, where they were joined by Clean drummer Hamish Kilgour, who added some tambourine to one track. The band, of which Nienaber was now an official member, headed to England in mid-2017 to play a show with old mates Comet Gain, then continued on to Norway, where the Pale Lights appeared at the Indiefjord festival. Soon after, their next record came out. The Jean, Bring the Flowers EP, which was again recorded by Olson and featured the same cast of characters, was issued in November of 2017. The band's second album, The Stars Seemed Brighter, was released a month later. ~ Tim Sendra, Rovi